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Friday, November 24th 2017

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2017
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Toronto to Tokyo, Japan - $615 to $662 CAD roundtrip including taxes | ANA flights

Tokyo, Japan

All Nippon Airways (ANA), a really great airline (ranked #3 worldwide this year), is showing flights from Toronto to Tokyo, Japan for $627 to $662 CAD roundtrip including taxes.

The flights have 1 stop each way, usually in Chicago or Vancouver.

The domestic legs (between Toronto and Chicago or Vancouver) may be operated by Air Canada or United Airlines.

The overseas legs are with All Nippon Airways (ANA).

The flights may be to either of Tokyo's 2 airports, Haneda (HND) or Narita (NRT).

The flights may be into one airport, and home from the other.

Flights to Japan have been quite expensive lately ($1100+ roundtrip). Have a look on Google Flights to see what most flights to Japan are going for.


Availability for travel

November, December 2017

January, February, March 2018

How to find and book these flights

1. Go to Momondo or Skyscanner

2. Search for a flight from Toronto (YYZ) to Tokyo, Japan (TYO)

Try the following dates:

DEPARTURE dates

Try Tuesday or Wednesday dates in January, February, or March 2018.

You can also try Monday and Thursday dates.

You may also be able to find some in November and the first half of December 2017.

RETURN dates

Try Tuesday or Wednesday dates in January, February, or March 2018.

You can also try Monday and Thursday dates.

You may also be able to find some in November and the first half of December 2017.


NOTE: After your Momondo search completes, some of the first flights that you see at the top of your results may have a ridiculously short connection in Chicago (59 minutes).

Try clicking on 'All Nippon Airways has another XX results' and then scroll down the Momondo results to look for flights with better connection times (2-3 hours). Look for flights with around 15 to 18 hours of total travel time.

IMPORTANT: Once you get to the booking site, study the flight details carefully, and make sure the overseas part of the journey is operated by All Nippon (ANA) and not United Airlines.

ALSO IMPORTANT: If you really want to make sure the flights are with ANA, I would *only* trust the flight times that are showing on the booking site and make sure they actually match up with ANA flight times. I wouldn't necessarily trust the airline name or image that is showing on the booking site.

See the paragraph below about using flight times to find flights that are with ANA. These are code-share flights, and I know booking sites can often display the wrong airline name and image with code-share flights.

screenshot from Momondo



screenshot from Skyscanner



Here are some tips for helping to locate the flights that are actually operated by All Nippon Airways and not United Airlines, by using flight times.

1. After your Momondo search completes, use the 'Time of day (Return)' slider on the left hand side, and set it to '21:00 - 22:00'.

We're doing this to filter it down to the flights that leave Tokyo at the end of our trip at 21:45.

These are always ANA flights.

2. It's a little trickier to make sure the flight on the way there is also with ANA.

What you can do is click on 'See Details' under each Momondo search result.

You want to focus on the second leg of the first flight. The one from a North American city to Tokyo...



Look for the flights that match up with the following flight times:

Chicago to Tokyo, departing at:
10:25
16:15

Washington to Tokyo, departing at:
10:55

Vancouver to Tokyo, departing at:
15:05

^^^ These are the departure times for flights that are operated by ANA.

If the booking site does not show flights that match the flight times above, I wouldn't trust that they are actually ANA flights, no matter what the booking site is displaying for the airline name or logo.

3. Now, make careful note of the flight times that you're seeing on Momondo and click through to the booking site.

Let's say it's FareGeek that you're clicking through to.

Once you get to FareGeek, look for the results that have flight times that match up with what you found on Momondo.

It may not be the first result you see on FareGeek. Try all of the ones that have the same departure time as the one you found on Momondo.

And then be sure to look carefully at the flight details on the booking site.

If you can't find ANA flights in both directions, it can be worth trying a date one day before or after.

I've seen quite a few examples of ANA operated flights both ways using Tuesday to Tuesday dates.

You can also try searching for these on Skyscanner, and looking for the ANA operated flights on there.

1. Go to Skyscanner

2. Search for a flight from Toronto (YYZ) to Tokyo, Japan (TYO)

Try the following dates:

DEPARTURE dates

Try Tuesday or Wednesday dates in January, February, or March 2018.

You can also try Monday and Thursday dates.

You may also be able to find some in November and the first half of December 2017.

RETURN dates

Try Tuesday or Wednesday dates in January, February, or March 2018.

You can also try Monday and Thursday dates.

You may also be able to find some in November and the first half of December 2017.


3. Once your Skyscanner search completes, try clicking on the 'Times' icon above the result.

Set the RETURN flight slider to 21:00 and up.



Similar to our Momondo technique above, this should narrow down our return flights in the Skyscanner results to ANA flights only.

4. Now have a look at the Skyscanner results again.

Scroll down through the Skyscanner results, and for our DEPARTURE flight (left hand side), look for the flights where the second leg is operated by ANA.



5. Click through from Skyscanner to the booking site (I've been seeing most of them on FareDepot).

And then be sure to look carefully at the flight details on the booking site, to make sure the flights are operated by ANA, and not United Airlines.

If you can't find ANA flights in both directions, it can be worth trying a date one day before or after.

I've seen quite a few examples of ANA flights both ways using Tuesday to Tuesday dates.

screenshot from Skyscanner



Update @ 4:30 PM EST - I've seen some flights on Skyscanner for as low as $615 CAD roundtrip including taxes, operated by ANA in both directions.

They were both Thursday to Monday dates... (could be some more Thursday to Mondays out there)

Nov 30 to Dec 11

Jan 18 to Jan 29

screenshot from Skyscanner



The price jumps to $615 CAD roundtrip when you click through to Fare Depot.



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16 Responses to "Toronto to Tokyo, Japan - $615 to $662 CAD roundtrip including taxes | ANA flights"


    Has Daniel been here?
       Daniel on November 14th, 2017

    After an hour long research, I found that:

    1) If you fly to Tokyo on ANA plane (not united), you most likely need to fly from YYZ to ORD with Air Georgian, and that's super tiny plane...which I don't like.

    2) On return flight, if you stopover at LAX, UA plane is Boeing 787, which is a very new aircraft, and way better than ANA plane (Boeing 777).

    So, I avoided all the ANA planes.

    Has Alpha been here?
       Alpha on November 14th, 2017

    Hi Chris.

    My friends and I ended up booking for United. You guys seem to be persistent on ANA. Would United be fine?

    Also, we booked through Fareboom. Any thoughts on the company?

    Has Chris_Myden been here?
       Chris_Myden on November 14th, 2017

    Hi Alpha,

    United will be just fine for getting to Japan :) ANA is just generally considered one of the best airlines around, and United, well, you've probably seen the thrashing they tend to take in the media.

    At the end of the day, United is just the world's third largest airline, of average quality, and the vast majority of their approximately *100 million* passengers per year get to and from where they want to go without incident. Some get their luggage lost. Others are overbooked. A few have their guitars broken. One or two get dragged off the plane.

    If you click on the article near the top right of this page 'Airfare Booking Sites: The Power Rankings' it has some info on Fareboom and my opinion of them.

    Has Stanley been here?
       Stanley on November 14th, 2017

    Hi Chris,
    I tried few times and all pointed me to ExploreTrip booking site. Once completed travellers and credit details. It stopped and ask me to call their Toll Free number. Is this normal or they try to upsale customer? Thanks.

    Has Chris_Myden been here?
       Chris_Myden on November 14th, 2017

    Hi Stanley,

    My guess is that they might want to verify your credit card details. I know some of the lower quality booking sites sometimes have extra hassle when it comes to credit card verification.

    Has Eric been here?
       Eric on November 14th, 2017

    Hi Chris,

    I booked March 21 - April 4. Thank you! I chose the ANA flights but I just got my itinerary via email and all flights say operated by United :( Not sure if I should try and change it or just keep as is...

    Has Ben been here?
       Ben on November 14th, 2017

    Quick question though I hope I know the answer...

    If I'm booking one of the ANA flights (YYZ > IAD > NRT) and (HND > ORD > YYZ), will I be able to check two pieces of luggage on both trips (there and back)? Mainly worried about the YYZ > IAD leg and ORD > YYZ leg as they are operated by United/Mesa

    Also, should I be wary of BookAirfare? Haha

    Has Stanley been here?
       Stanley on November 15th, 2017

    Thank you Chris. I tried again this morning and booked during March Break Week. $2644 for family of 4 with ANA flight.

    Has Rachel been here?
       Rachel on November 15th, 2017

    I booked my tickets through Explore Trip this morning and found out that they charged my credit card the amount in USD rather than in CAD. As a result, the charge is $400 higher than what my email receipt states!

    I had to call them and email them proof of the transaction on my credit card. The supervisor there said that the charge was somehow "defaulted to USD" and assured me that the correct amount will be posted on my credit card in 2-3 business days... My option now is to wait and hope that he is right.

    Has Chris_Myden been here?
       Chris_Myden on November 15th, 2017

    Hi Rachel, I have seen a very similar issue with Explore Trip before, with United flights to Australia.

    They freaked out quite a few people, who were charged a pending charge in $USD (the same amount they expected in $CAD, but in $USD, so quite a bit higher). Explore Trip explained that when the charge actually posts / firms up in a few days, that it would be the correct amount.

    That turned out to be true.

    If you have a look at this blog post and look under Update 7/9 you can read about it....
    Toronto to Sydney, Australia - 783 CAD roundtrip

    Has Rachel been here?
       Rachel on November 15th, 2017

    Thanks, Chris! Your response and that blog post give me much needed reassurance. I feel a lot better now!

    Great blog, btw! My trip to Japan is now possible thanks to you!

    Has Chris_Myden been here?
       Chris_Myden on November 15th, 2017

    No problem, thanks for checking it out, I'm glad it helped!

    Has Liz been here?
       Liz on November 15th, 2017

    Hi Chris,

    I booked yesterday using Faredepot and was issued a reservation number by ANA, but when I try to check my booking, it's saying that I need to contact ANA. I called customer service at ANA and they said they don't have any information since it was booked through a third party website. Will there be any possibility of them cancelling the booking/. A little nervous here....

    Has Chris_Myden been here?
       Chris_Myden on November 15th, 2017

    Hi Liz,

    Was it a 6 character code or a 13 digit ticket number that you received?

    I'm assuming this was on the ANA website that you tried to check the booking?

    You could also try entering it on the United website.

    I haven't heard of anyone having their booking cancelled.

    Has Jess been here?
       Jess on November 15th, 2017

    Booked through Explore Trip. I had a similar issue with Stanley above, but I called them and was able to verify my booking through the United site this morning. :)

    Has Jess been here?
       Jess on November 15th, 2017

    Thanks for sharing this, Chris!

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